God's blessing on America (or lack there of?)

So here is the string of posts and reply that lead to the making of this thread.
(from: https://www.memverse.com/forums/general-chat-topics/topics/you-know-you-re-a-homeschooler-when?page=16 if you care to check the original for yourself)

you know your a homeschooler if :
…You don't know what the Pledge of Allegiance is
…You don't care what the Pledge of Allegiance is
…If you do know what the Pledge of Allegiance is, you have no clue what it says.

Noah/Deadpool (semi-joking): = unpatriotic, stupid, communist-loving, anti-christian, demonic worshipper of the devil.

Sam: I kinda agree with you there. Despite it's faults, America is still the most blessed nation out there.

And so all this raised the question: Is America better than all the other nations that God created and has also blessed?

please discus and bare in mind romans 2:1.
You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge another, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things.

I believe that America is one of the most privileged nations, for sure. It has been one of the most blessed by God in terms of resources/freedom of religion etc, but is it better? I would say no. I don't believe God loves the people in America more than the people in Asia/Africa/Europe etc.

The Israelite theocracy (no longer extant) was the most blessed political entity ever. I'm tempted to say "period", but that may not be a good idea…
That said, America has been blessed in many unique ways, so perhaps it is at this time the most blessed. However, it is obviously under judgment, as God "gives us up" to various sins. (Romans 1)

That's the way things seem to me. :) ^Or perhaps :(^

with out taking an sides just yet, perhaps we should specify in what way we mean better.
For example I might say that beach front property is better land to live on whereas you might think of the cost and just be like "Dude! Seriously!"
I'm thinking you meant that God doesn't show partiality between classifications of people groups.

Right, I don't believe God shows partiality between people groups. What is your opinion on that? Sorry I was unclear. :)

@Everyone I hope I am not coming off as unpatriotic. I just don't believe God loves America and the people in America more than the rest of the world.

Well, my view is vary unpatriotic.
I believe that God blessed and preserved our nation (America) so that we could play a part in protecting Israel from the other Arab nations. Now that that initial task has been accomplished we are (being permitted to) corrupt ourselfs (as a nation) with sin and erode the things that made us great. I believe God will deal with us as he has dealt with all the other nations that turned their backs on him.
Although right now, as individuals, we may have things like the freedom to worship, free enterprise, and one of the best constitutions; it won't last for ever. welcome to the end times folks!

Well that's all the controversy-sauce from me for now. Feel free to be skeptical.

government confuses me… :)

Right, I don't believe God shows partiality between people groups. What is your opinion on that? Sorry I was unclear. :) @Everyone I hope I am *not* coming off as unpatriotic. I just don't believe God loves America and the people in America more than the rest of the world.

so U R saying that God does not play favorites? if so, I am agreeing :)( I think of memverse as a way to learn, I am just trying to find out what U R saying!:)

Yes, I am saying that God does not play favourites! :) In my opinion that is! :)

Yes, I am saying that God does not play favourites! :) In my opinion that is! :)

It isn't just your opinion. ;)

Romans 2:11–"For God shows no partiality."
Acts 10:34–"Truly I understand that God shows no partiality"
2 Chronicles 19:7–"there is no injustice with the LORD our God, or partiality"
Galatians 2:6–"God shows no partiality"
Ephesians 6:9–"[your] Master… is in heaven, and… there is no partiality with him"

:D

:)

I quoted Romans 2:11 in my other post under the homeschooler post, but not here. Thanks for looking up the verses! :)

No, God doesn't play favorites… but He sorta still does…

He chose to bless the nation of Israel and curse all of the other nations of the world, simply because He loved Israel (Deuteronomy 7). And He does the same with His people, the church, now. He can have people and even nations that He loves more than others. Whether that is true today or not – in the case of nations – is what is up for debate.

I would say that the only entity/collection of persons that God has a special love for and whom He specifically blesses today is the church, His special people, the antitype of the nation of Israel. Whoever blesses her will be blessed and whoever curses her will be cursed.

America really wouldn't have any extra-special favor from God unless everyone in her were regenerate. She is used by God just as all nations are used, and He sovereignly controls the appointment of her leaders, but that doesn't make her or the citizens in her any more the objects of His special blessing than others. We experience the benefits of the wisdom of our founders, whom God allowed to establish our country mainly upon biblical principles, but many of them were still unregenerate, and most of the populous was unregenerate. Therefore, there's not one thing more special about us than any other nation in the world established and ruled by fallible man.

:) I quoted Romans 2:11 in my other post under the homeschooler post, but not here. Thanks for looking up the verses! :)

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^some how I saw Romans 2:1….:P^

Sorry…that's what I meant! (I feel so bad that I didn't go back and look it up!)

Sorry…. :'(

Okay, never mind, it happens to me all the time. Romans 2:1 sorta apples anyway….

haha! :)

I agree. If God played favorites why would anyone want to serve him?

Yes, I am saying that God does not play favourites! :) In my opinion that is! :)

It isn't just your opinion. ;) Romans 2:11--"For God shows no partiality." Acts 10:34--"Truly I understand that God shows no partiality" 2 Chronicles 19:7--"there is no injustice with the LORD our God, or partiality" Galatians 2:6--"God shows no partiality" Ephesians 6:9--"[your] Master... is in heaven, and... there is no partiality with him" :D

Great verses!

"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

Is it wrong for American Christians to pledge allegiance to the flag?
Is it wrong for American Christians to not pledge allegiance to the flag.

And I hope that this is an OK place to post this. I wasn't really sure where else to.

I don't see why it would be wrong either way… one may take the pledge if he wants to, but he doesn't have to.
And of course, if your allegiance calls upon you to do something against God, against liberty, against justice, against the law-based republican form of government, the pledge can't be held against you. And if ever we add a 51st state, all previously made pledges will be void (as of the following July 4th). :P
^Splitting infinitives, however, is always wrong.^

I don't see why it would be _wrong_ either way… one may take the pledge if he wants to, but he doesn't _have_ to. And of course, if your allegiance calls upon you to do something against God, against liberty, against justice, against the law-based republican form of government, the pledge can't be held against you. And if ever we add a 51st state, all previously made pledges will be void (as of the following July 4th). :P ^Splitting infinitives, however, is _always_ wrong.^

Thanks for the reply! Did I split an infinitive or did you? :)

EDIT – Oh, I see now :).

I don't actually think it [splitting infinitives] is wrong, though. :P

Pledging allegiance to the flag or splitting infinitives? jk :)

If the individual is serous about it then I would say its their choice. If they aren't seriously comiting themselves its lying.
And in my opinion making kids swear thoughtlessly every day is a bad idea. In the old testament it was a sin.
(Leviticus 5:4 and5)

... And in my opinion making kids swear thoughtlessly every day is a bad idea. In the old testament it was a sin. (Leviticus 5:4 and5)

Unfortunately, I believe that by reciting it every day, the system has effectively inoculated the majority of persons to what the message of the pledge actually contains. But if it were a bi-annual occurrence, I imagine that the outrage of including God would be great enough to eliminate His mention (think: prayer at graduations…). If "In God We Trust" wasn't on every piece of government issued piece of 'money', I think a coin or bill introduced with such an inscription would receive such adamant rejection by those in power that the public would never even see the design. Secular humanism has a very strong influence in the school systems, and seeks to drive out Christianity. The irony however is that in the name of keeping religion out of schools, Secular humanism is itself a religion. While some humanists vehemently deny this others admit the truth of the situation. Even the US Supreme court recognized this when it cited Secular humanism as a religion in the footnotes of a 1961 court decision (367 U.S. 488).
^[ Footnote 11 ] Among religions in this country which do not teach what would generally be considered a belief in the existence of God are Buddhism, Taoism, Ethical Culture, Secular Humanism and others. See Washington Ethical Society v. District of Columbia, 101 U.S. App. D.C. 371, 249 F.2d 127; Fellowship of Humanity v. County of Alameda, 153 Cal. App. 2d 673, 315 P.2d 394; II Encyclopaedia of the Social Sciences 293; 4 Encyclopaedia Britannica (1957 ed.) 325-327; 21 id., at 797; Archer, Faiths Men Live By (2d ed. revised by Purinton), 120-138, 254-313; 1961 World Almanac 695, 712; Year Book of American Churches for 1961, at 29, 47.^
For additional information on this subject see " Is Secular Humanism a Religion" http://vftonline.org/Patriarchy/definitions/humanism_religion.htm