Social Chatting #7

Started by Hiruko Kagetane
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Nathan Wright: Impersonator Hunter

Oh, okay. I'm excited about it!

Carissa, yes we do. However, I think it would be good if Christ could be eliminated from Christmas. This may seem shocking, but think about this: why would Christ want to be in Christmas anymore???

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Andy

Hi all, we're still working on a few issues with the forum :persevere: but hopefully it is looking a bit better now.

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biblebee

Ummmmmm……do you want me to become really enthusiastic????????????????????
There…that make you happy???????????

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biblebee

No, that's not shocking at all. That's definitely what I think! Did you read what I wrote about christmas on the td?
Andy: Thanks for all your work! :)

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Hiruko Kagetane

There may be a lot of darkness in the holiday these days, with over-commercialization and the "true meaning of Christmas" being skewed left and right, but I don't believe He should be eliminated from Christmas. Where there is greatest darkness, the light shines all the brighter. If people look for the TRUE meaning of Christmas, not something stereotypical or commercialized, and look to His face, they will find true satisfaction. They will find the true meaning of Christmas.

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biblebee

Yeah…but people aren't doing that! To them it is just another holiday in which to get gifts and eat lots of good food. Did you read my post on the td?

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Ian R.2

There may be a lot of darkness in the holiday these days, with over-commercialization and the "true meaning of Christmas" being skewed left and right, but I don't believe He should be eliminated from Christmas. Where there is greatest darkness, the light shines all the brighter. If people look for the TRUE meaning of Christmas, not something stereotypical or commercialized, and look to His face, they will find true satisfaction. They will find the true meaning of Christmas.

Ditto!

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Ian R.2

True, but why take Christ out of Christmas? It's kinda like taking away another opportunity to evangelize to someone. (I hope that makes sense.)

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Hiruko Kagetane

That's an over-generalization. For those who look beyond all that, and looking for true fulfillment, God will use this time to bring them to Himself. I was reading Ecclesiastes Chapters 1 and 2 earlier, and Solomon was talking about how empty pleasure is, without God. Why do you think Hollywood stars are often known for their crazy lifestyles of partying and drinking? They believe that pleasure will give them satisfaction. But it doesn't. And, eventually, they realize this, and go to other religions, or give away lots of money and become philanthropists, all to satisfy the emptiness in their souls. But nothing can. Except for Christ.

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Ian R.2

Well no, I'm not that type of person, but I think I know a couple people who do that. I did have one chance a few years ago to evangelize to someone about the birth of Christ, but I didn't take it and now I wish I had.

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Hiruko Kagetane

Are you going out on christmas day to evangelize amd tell people the true meaming of christmas?

Are you?

I have to say, no, I don't believe we are. But, I can say that there are many churches and organizations in or area that do go out, and evangelize, and help people, all the while pointing them to Christ. And those people have my prayers. :)

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Hiruko Kagetane

Your over-generalization was that all people use Christmas as an excuse to buy things and eat good food. Many people use it for this reason, but saying that all people do that is like saying all homeschoolers hate video games.

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biblebee

Well then should I say that I am not that type of person? Because I really am not. It doesn't matter what type of person you are we live in a dying world and we should evangelize. :)
Am I coming across harsh?

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biblebee

No. But I do not celebrate Christmas so I don't see that I have to go out on christmas and do that. And that's the whole orobkem…that's how christmas started. The catholics wanted to evangelize the world so they took a pagan holiday and put Christ into it. Now most people have taken Christ almost completely out of it and you're saying that we should keep him in to evangelize.

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biblebee

Am I coming across harsh because if so please please please tell me.
And I didn't mean to start this huge debate so if y'all want to we can stop.

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Hiruko Kagetane

What I'm saying is that the original focus of Christmas was Christ, and still is to many people. Why is it wrong to celebrate the birth of our Saviour, despite it originating from a pagan holiday? Isn't that how we have drums? They were originally created for shamanistic ceremonies. Are they then bad?

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Ian R.2

What's the use of bringing people to Christ if we leave Christ out of it? I kinda see what you're saying, but if we want to evangelize we can't take Christ out of everything that is remotely related to a pagan holiday.

Okay I think I'm done. My brain's about fried. :P

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Sarah B.

It was a really good idea to bring the Christmas discussion on to the SC#7! It looks to me like the only people really debating on the TD topic on this subject are the people who don’t think we should celebrate that holiday.
When my family stopped celebrating Christmas and Easter my dad decided that it was not good that we where not celebrating anything. Celebration is a way of remembering things and is very important! So he decided to replace those holidays with the more biblical Jewish holidays. :)

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Ian R.2

My computer sped up right when I posted that comment. :P The first one was okay, not my style of music exactly, but pretty good voices. The second one I actually saw before. Pretty goofy. :P

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Hiruko Kagetane

Yeah, Peter Hollens has WAY better songs, but I wanted to post something fun! :)

Like his Star Wars Medley!

And Sam Tsui doesn't usually do acapella, so I think this was a bit new for him.

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Ian R.2

They are great! They were really the only ones who were on the Sing Off and actually made it in the real world. I haven't heard much from the other groups. :)

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Hiruko Kagetane

Yeah, that's the fate of most music groups/artists on those shows that don't make it. A few manage to rise from the ashes, like Mandisa.

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