Free Will vs. Predestination
Started by Christian AlexanderChristine Daaé (Dani the Older)
Lol, you're right; I literally had to read it four times very carefully to find what I did wrong. =p
I did that too. x)
Nathan Wright: Impersonator Hunter
Evie, Child of Grace
Did you see my questions on the previous page?
Matthew Minica
Sorry about that, I don't check over here very often, and I must have missed them last time I looked.
So, your first question: "How does the idea of us not having a choice to love God limit His love and twist His character?" Good question, but actually in one way the answer is simple. Quoting my post on pg. 9 (https://www.memverse.com/forums/theology-discussions/topics/free-will-vs-predestination?page=9#post-25046): "God wants all of humanity to be saved, but He will not force us to choose it because the reward of everlasting life is just that: a reward for being righteous on the earth. The punishment of eternal death is just that: a punishment for being evil on the earth. If God rewards or punishes according to His choices to save or reject, then He is partial. But the Bible clearly says that "God is no respecter of persons" (Acts 10:34)."
And your other question: "Could you explain/elaborate on your statement that "Love is not true love without a choice to love."?" Certainly. God designed humans in His own image; that means in part that He designed us with a mind and a will of our own. We have the ability to think and to choose our own way. God also didn't create humans just because He wanted to have something to serve Him; He also created us to fellowship with Him. (What is so amazing is that He still desires fellowship with us, even after we fell away from Him!) One of the key ingredients of fellowship is that all parties are involved. In other words, fellowship requires a continual responding of the will to the other. Our love is a response to God's love ("We love Him, because He first loved us"). God wants His children to trust in Him, not because they have to, but because they want to.
Evie, Child of Grace
Thank you. I didn't mind waiting. :) You gave me some good stuff to chew on.
I think what Peter is saying there is not referring to the choice of salvation, since the people spoken of are already either saved or not. “he that feareth Him and worketh righteousness" must already be a a believer, since unbelievers cannot do what is acceptable to God (Psalm 14:1-3, Eph 2:1). Peter seems to be dealing with the difficulty of whether Gentile believers should be in normal fellowship with Jewish believers since previously Jews were not allowed to associate with Gentiles. He is saying that God is not partial to His children on account of their race etc.. Jewish and Gentile believers should be in equal fellowship with one another because they are in Christ.
Amen, and God graciously gives His Spirit to bring life to our dead hearts so that we may have the power to love and fellowship with Him as He desires.