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Okay. So, if I'm getting this, betrothal is like a more serious friendship (but not courtship) and then an engagement, which has more commitment behind it…?
Christian Alexander
......I don't particularly like feeling like the automatic stereotyper. *facedesk*
However, that's totally what you were in this case. Which is unfortunately the result of a lot of stereotyping that you've been exposed to. Some of which was here on the forum.
Abigail Rose
That's really neat. XD
But I could be wrong. It might be a different guy. :P I get all Sarah's people confused. x)
His Servant
It's fine, Nicolas! Stuff like that happens! I really don't mind!
SavedByGrace
......I don't particularly like feeling like the automatic stereotyper. *facedesk*However, that's totally what you were in this case. Which is unfortunately the result of a lot of stereotyping that you've been exposed to. Some of which was here on the forum.
I know I was. And I don't particularly like the feeling.
SavedByGrace
It's fine, Nicolas! Stuff like that happens! I really don't mind!
But I looked like a fool whether or not you mind. :P
His Servant
What's the reason to? That would almost tempt her to go behind her father's back and pursue something with the guy, because she now has the knowledge that he was interested in her. But if she just trusts her father's judgment, then she can open her eyes to other guys that her father approves of, instead of being fixated on this one that he rejected.And the reason behind why you wouldn't tell the girl...? Just curious, that's all.The one question I would raise... the father never tells the girl? That doesn't seem right, possibly. Depending on how the girl is. If the girl happens to like the guy as well, the guy calls the dad, the dad says no... and the girl is just waiting for the day for when she hears from her dad if the guy has made any effort in saying anything about a possible relationship? But, in the case, if the girl doesn't care or has no desire for the guy, then it doesn't seem like it would matter too much.. Very interesting though, and I had never heard of that before.In that situation, I would expect that the girl would be open with her father about a guy that she likes, and the dad would explain to the girl why he doesn't think the guy is right for her -- and he could do this without explaining that the guy had approached him and asked about her, and that he had told the guy no.
True. But, I wasn't using the scenario that the girl wasn't going to trust her father and do something bad in that way. I get your point though. ;)
His Servant
It's fine, Nicolas! Stuff like that happens! I really don't mind!But I looked like a fool whether or not you mind. :P
Heyyyyyy. I looked like a fool playing badminton, so I guess we're even now. XD
SavedByGrace
I think I'm just going to go to bed… I'm not adding to this conversation, and it could easily be argued that I'm detracting from it. :P And, I'm tired. Therefore, so long and farewell, all! It has been an amazing day, thanks to everyone here. x)
Christian Alexander
Okay. So, if I'm getting this, betrothal is like a more serious friendship (but not courtship) and then an engagement, which has more commitment behind it...?
Somewhat-serious, yes. I mean, to the extent that the guy and girl get to know each other pretty well. Not just an acquaintance. They hang out a lot with each other's families. So it's sort of like a courtship without the open acknowledgment that either is interested in the other. Then if the guy decides he is interested in the girl, he asks the father; if the father approves, he asks the girl; if she says yes, then they're regarded as engaged and begin planning for marriage. So, yes, it entails much more commitment, which is the only appropriate context in which emotional intimacy should be pursued – which is often the problem with courtship in its common form.
Abigail Rose
I think I'm just going to go to bed... I'm not adding to this conversation, and it could easily be argued that I'm detracting from it. :P And, I'm tired. Therefore, so long and farewell, all! It has been an amazing day, thanks to everyone here. x)
Noooo!
Christian Alexander
True. But, I wasn't using the scenario that the girl wasn't going to trust her father and do something bad in that way. I get your point though. ;)What's the reason to? That would almost tempt her to go behind her father's back and pursue something with the guy, because she now has the knowledge that he was interested in her. But if she just trusts her father's judgment, then she can open her eyes to other guys that her father approves of, instead of being fixated on this one that he rejected.And the reason behind why you wouldn't tell the girl...? Just curious, that's all.The one question I would raise... the father never tells the girl? That doesn't seem right, possibly. Depending on how the girl is. If the girl happens to like the guy as well, the guy calls the dad, the dad says no... and the girl is just waiting for the day for when she hears from her dad if the guy has made any effort in saying anything about a possible relationship? But, in the case, if the girl doesn't care or has no desire for the guy, then it doesn't seem like it would matter too much.. Very interesting though, and I had never heard of that before.In that situation, I would expect that the girl would be open with her father about a guy that she likes, and the dad would explain to the girl why he doesn't think the guy is right for her -- and he could do this without explaining that the guy had approached him and asked about her, and that he had told the guy no.
And I see what you're saying, too. So I think it would be up to the discretion of the father. It's not a hard-and-fast rule.
SavedByGrace
Heyyyyyy. I looked like a fool playing badminton, so I guess we're even now. XDIt's fine, Nicolas! Stuff like that happens! I really don't mind!But I looked like a fool whether or not you mind. :P
Haha… I guess that works. xP
His Servant
Awwww…. bye Nicolas. =/
SavedByGrace
I think I'm just going to go to bed... I'm not adding to this conversation, and it could easily be argued that I'm detracting from it. :P And, I'm tired. Therefore, so long and farewell, all! It has been an amazing day, thanks to everyone here. x)Noooo!
What do you want me to do instead? :P
His Servant
Yeah, it seems like it. If someone were to go into something like that type of engagement, you'd definitely have to be more than just acquaintances or even friends. Got it.
Abigail Rose
What do you want me to do instead? :PI think I'm just going to go to bed... I'm not adding to this conversation, and it could easily be argued that I'm detracting from it. :P And, I'm tired. Therefore, so long and farewell, all! It has been an amazing day, thanks to everyone here. x)Noooo!
Staaaayyyy! If you don't I'll be all lonely and have no Nicolas to talk to until like 3 or 4 when I go to sleep!
His Servant
Stay up! xD
SavedByGrace
Staaaayyyy! If you don't I'll be all lonely and have no Nicolas to talk to until like 3 or 4 when I go to sleep!What do you want me to do instead? :PI think I'm just going to go to bed... I'm not adding to this conversation, and it could easily be argued that I'm detracting from it. :P And, I'm tired. Therefore, so long and farewell, all! It has been an amazing day, thanks to everyone here. x)Noooo!
Well, I can't stay up that late no matter what! :P And what do you want to talk about? :P
Christian Alexander
Staaaayyyy! If you don't I'll be all lonely and have no Nicolas to talk to until like 3 or 4 when I go to sleep!What do you want me to do instead? :PI think I'm just going to go to bed... I'm not adding to this conversation, and it could easily be argued that I'm detracting from it. :P And, I'm tired. Therefore, so long and farewell, all! It has been an amazing day, thanks to everyone here. x)Noooo!
And what are Bethany and I? Chopped liver? XD
SavedByGrace
Stay up! xD
You are so backwards. xP
His Servant
And what are Bethany and I? Chopped liver? XDStaaaayyyy! If you don't I'll be all lonely and have no Nicolas to talk to until like 3 or 4 when I go to sleep!What do you want me to do instead? :PI think I'm just going to go to bed... I'm not adding to this conversation, and it could easily be argued that I'm detracting from it. :P And, I'm tired. Therefore, so long and farewell, all! It has been an amazing day, thanks to everyone here. x)Noooo!
Probably. Which is really, gross, actually.
SavedByGrace
Staaaayyyy! If you don't I'll be all lonely and have no Nicolas to talk to until like 3 or 4 when I go to sleep!And what are Bethany and I? Chopped liver? XD
Apparently. xP
Abigail Rose
Well, I can't stay up that late no matter what! :P And what do you want to talk about? :PStaaaayyyy! If you don't I'll be all lonely and have no Nicolas to talk to until like 3 or 4 when I go to sleep!What do you want me to do instead? :PI think I'm just going to go to bed... I'm not adding to this conversation, and it could easily be argued that I'm detracting from it. :P And, I'm tired. Therefore, so long and farewell, all! It has been an amazing day, thanks to everyone here. x)Noooo!
whispers Rainbows.
Christian Alexander
Probably. Which is really, gross, actually.And what are Bethany and I? Chopped liver? XDStaaaayyyy! If you don't I'll be all lonely and have no Nicolas to talk to until like 3 or 4 when I go to sleep!What do you want me to do instead? :PI think I'm just going to go to bed... I'm not adding to this conversation, and it could easily be argued that I'm detracting from it. :P And, I'm tired. Therefore, so long and farewell, all! It has been an amazing day, thanks to everyone here. x)Noooo!
Yes, it is.
His Servant
No you are! You're always telling me to stay up when I want to go to bed!
Abigail Rose
And what are Bethany and I? Chopped liver? XDStaaaayyyy! If you don't I'll be all lonely and have no Nicolas to talk to until like 3 or 4 when I go to sleep!What do you want me to do instead? :PI think I'm just going to go to bed... I'm not adding to this conversation, and it could easily be argued that I'm detracting from it. :P And, I'm tired. Therefore, so long and farewell, all! It has been an amazing day, thanks to everyone here. x)Noooo!
You're not Nicolas!
SavedByGrace
Well, I can't stay up that late no matter what! :P And what do you want to talk about? :P*whispers* Rainbows.
Composition? Aesthetic value? History? Legends concerning? ;D
His Servant
You're not Nicolas!And what are Bethany and I? Chopped liver? XDStaaaayyyy! If you don't I'll be all lonely and have no Nicolas to talk to until like 3 or 4 when I go to sleep!What do you want me to do instead? :PI think I'm just going to go to bed... I'm not adding to this conversation, and it could easily be argued that I'm detracting from it. :P And, I'm tired. Therefore, so long and farewell, all! It has been an amazing day, thanks to everyone here. x)Noooo!
Which is why he was asking if we were chopped liver. ;)
SavedByGrace
No you are! You're always telling me to stay up when I want to go to bed!
But I'm consistent! You always tell me to go to bed, and now you're telling me to stay up! :P
Abigail Rose
Composition? Aesthetic value? History? Legends concerning? ;DWell, I can't stay up that late no matter what! :P And what do you want to talk about? :P*whispers* Rainbows.
Just rainbows!
His Servant
oh, whateverz. xP
SavedByGrace
Just rainbows!Composition? Aesthetic value? History? Legends concerning? ;DWell, I can't stay up that late no matter what! :P And what do you want to talk about? :P*whispers* Rainbows.
Well, let's do it then! :P You start. ;)
Abigail Rose
Which is why he was asking if we were chopped liver. ;)You're not Nicolas!And what are Bethany and I? Chopped liver? XDStaaaayyyy! If you don't I'll be all lonely and have no Nicolas to talk to until like 3 or 4 when I go to sleep!What do you want me to do instead? :PI think I'm just going to go to bed... I'm not adding to this conversation, and it could easily be argued that I'm detracting from it. :P And, I'm tired. Therefore, so long and farewell, all! It has been an amazing day, thanks to everyone here. x)Noooo!
Well, I don't know about him…. But you're not. :P
Christian Alexander
Well, I don't know about him.... But you're not. :PWhich is why he was asking if we were chopped liver. ;)You're not Nicolas!And what are Bethany and I? Chopped liver? XDStaaaayyyy! If you don't I'll be all lonely and have no Nicolas to talk to until like 3 or 4 when I go to sleep!What do you want me to do instead? :PI think I'm just going to go to bed... I'm not adding to this conversation, and it could easily be argued that I'm detracting from it. :P And, I'm tired. Therefore, so long and farewell, all! It has been an amazing day, thanks to everyone here. x)Noooo!
XDDDDDDD
Abigail Rose
Well, let's do it then! :P You start. ;)Just rainbows!Composition? Aesthetic value? History? Legends concerning? ;DWell, I can't stay up that late no matter what! :P And what do you want to talk about? :P*whispers* Rainbows.
…
Uh.
Favorite type of color in the rainbow besides red?
His Servant
Well, I don't know about him.... But you're not. :PWhich is why he was asking if we were chopped liver. ;)You're not Nicolas!And what are Bethany and I? Chopped liver? XDStaaaayyyy! If you don't I'll be all lonely and have no Nicolas to talk to until like 3 or 4 when I go to sleep!What do you want me to do instead? :PI think I'm just going to go to bed... I'm not adding to this conversation, and it could easily be argued that I'm detracting from it. :P And, I'm tired. Therefore, so long and farewell, all! It has been an amazing day, thanks to everyone here. x)Noooo!
Heyyyyyyyyy! He's not either!
SavedByGrace
Well, let's do it then! :P You start. ;)… Uh. Favorite type of color in the rainbow besides red?
Green. :D You? (Since black isn't in the rainbow. ;P)
Christian Alexander
Heyyyyyyyyy! He's not either!Well, I don't know about him.... But you're not. :PWhich is why he was asking if we were chopped liver. ;)You're not Nicolas!And what are Bethany and I? Chopped liver? XDStaaaayyyy! If you don't I'll be all lonely and have no Nicolas to talk to until like 3 or 4 when I go to sleep!What do you want me to do instead? :PI think I'm just going to go to bed... I'm not adding to this conversation, and it could easily be argued that I'm detracting from it. :P And, I'm tired. Therefore, so long and farewell, all! It has been an amazing day, thanks to everyone here. x)Noooo!
Well, apparently her jury's still out on that.
His Servant
GREEN!
His Servant
Well, apparently her jury's still out on that.Heyyyyyyyyy! He's not either!Well, I don't know about him.... But you're not. :PWhich is why he was asking if we were chopped liver. ;)You're not Nicolas!And what are Bethany and I? Chopped liver? XDStaaaayyyy! If you don't I'll be all lonely and have no Nicolas to talk to until like 3 or 4 when I go to sleep!What do you want me to do instead? :PI think I'm just going to go to bed... I'm not adding to this conversation, and it could easily be argued that I'm detracting from it. :P And, I'm tired. Therefore, so long and farewell, all! It has been an amazing day, thanks to everyone here. x)Noooo!
Well, mine isn't.
SavedByGrace
Well, apparently her jury's still out on that.Well, mine isn't.
Apparently not. :P
Abigail Rose
Heyyyyyyyyy! He's not either!Well, I don't know about him.... But you're not. :PWhich is why he was asking if we were chopped liver. ;)You're not Nicolas!And what are Bethany and I? Chopped liver? XDStaaaayyyy! If you don't I'll be all lonely and have no Nicolas to talk to until like 3 or 4 when I go to sleep!What do you want me to do instead? :PI think I'm just going to go to bed... I'm not adding to this conversation, and it could easily be argued that I'm detracting from it. :P And, I'm tired. Therefore, so long and farewell, all! It has been an amazing day, thanks to everyone here. x)Noooo!
xP
His Servant
Green. :D You? (Since black isn't in the rainbow. ;P)Well, let's do it then! :P You start. ;)… Uh. Favorite type of color in the rainbow besides red?
Wait. Is this something about deadpool, or are your new favorite colors green and black?
Abigail Rose
Green. :D You? (Since black isn't in the rainbow. ;P)Well, let's do it then! :P You start. ;)… Uh. Favorite type of color in the rainbow besides red?
Uhh grey. The clouds next to the rainbow. That counts!
His Servant
Apparently not. :PWell, apparently her jury's still out on that.Well, mine isn't.
Well, then. What's your take on the matter?
SavedByGrace
Wait. Is this something about deadpool, or are your new favorite colors green and black?Green. :D You? (Since black isn't in the rainbow. ;P)Well, let's do it then! :P You start. ;)… Uh. Favorite type of color in the rainbow besides red?
sigh That parenthetical remark was for her, since she likes black. :P I was only saying that red is my favorite color, and green is my second favorite. :P
Christian Alexander
Wait. Is this something about deadpool, or are your new favorite colors green and black?Green. :D You? (Since black isn't in the rainbow. ;P)Well, let's do it then! :P You start. ;)… Uh. Favorite type of color in the rainbow besides red?
No, he was saying that her favorite (black) isn't in the rainbow, and therefore she'd have to pick something else.
SavedByGrace
Uhh grey. The clouds next to the rainbow. That counts!Green. :D You? (Since black isn't in the rainbow. ;P)Well, let's do it then! :P You start. ;)… Uh. Favorite type of color in the rainbow besides red?
Oh, whatever. xP
Anything else about rainbows?
His Servant
*sigh* That parenthetical remark was for her, since she likes black. :P I was only saying that red is my favorite color, and green is my second favorite. :PWait. Is this something about deadpool, or are your new favorite colors green and black?Green. :D You? (Since black isn't in the rainbow. ;P)Well, let's do it then! :P You start. ;)… Uh. Favorite type of color in the rainbow besides red?
Oh, sorry, I missed that.