Is it right for a Christian to drink....

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Jonathan Peterson

What do you think? Is it okay if you drink beer/wine every now and then? What about tattoos, or the types of movies you watch? Like do you think that it is right for Christians to watching Rated-R movies?

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Joshua Harrell

Proverbs 31:4-6
4 It is not for kings, O Lemuel,
it is not for kings to drink wine,
or for rulers to take strong drink,
5 lest they drink and forget what has been decreed
and pervert the rights of all the afflicted.
6 Give strong drink to the one who is perishing,
and wine to those in bitter distress;

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ZachB

Proverbs 20:1 says, "Wine is a mocker, Strong drink is a brawler, And whoever is led astray by it is not wise."

I'd say the Bible does have a rule for drinking.

There is a verse somewhere in the early Old Testament forbidding tattoos, but I do not remember where it is–somewhere in Exodus-Deuteronomy.

As far as R-rated movies, The Passion is a good one–Christian, and it portrays–very vividly (emphasis on vividly)–the life of Christ. The Bible has several verses about the eyes, including Matthew 18:9, "And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you. It is better for you to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes, to be cast into hell fire." R-rated movies have stuff in them Christians know that should not be watched, let alone X-rated. So if we know R-rated movies contain inappropriate stuff, we should not watch them.

Is this helpful?

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Jackie Chase

I think it is the decision of every Christian as to whether or not they drink at all, because there are some who treat it as temptation and choose to avoid it, whereas some other Christians drink it moderately every now and again.
In our family, restraint has been exercised in the watching of movies-seeing as some movies impact people who are visually and/or psychologically affected-like me and one of my older sisters. I have only ever watched one R-rated movie-The King's Speech-but have otherwise never really gone beyond PG and PG-13 movies. My dad and one or two of my older siblings watch R-rated movies more than I probably ever will, but it would be hard to convince them that some of these movies just aren't worth it.

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Dakota Lynch

In our family, restraint has been exercised in the watching of movies-seeing as some movies impact people who are visually and/or psychologically affected-like me and one of my older sisters.

Like you, and pretty much everybody else on the planet. I don't believe a person can watch movies littered with vulgar language, violence, and skin without being at least somewhat affected.

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Octavius

Right, Dakota.
All things in moderation (in the scenario of alcohol). Tattooing is unlawful.
Some rated-R might be okay, but I'm not much of a movie fan, and it's usually rated that way for a reason.

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Jackie Chase

Agreed, Dakota. However, some people are just so used to seeing violent movies that they are hardened to it and seem unaffected. What I should have said is that some people are a lot more affected by it than others.

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Jonathan Peterson

I think your pretty much hit the nail in the coffin when getting down to the nitty gritty of this question. It all depends with the person's heart and where he is in his walk with God.

Paul teaches us that if something we do causes another brother to stumble we should not do it. This includes what foods we eat, what we drink, what we watch or what we do.

I can tell you that I watch Rated-R movies, but not horror movies. Am I less of a Christian, and have a hardened heart because of it? Is my love for God not as good as someone who does not watch these movies?

Let us look at the tattoo example:
A man walks into a room and you see a tattoo on his arm which gives reference to a Bible verse. Does that make him less of a follower of God.

If you choose to refer to the scriptures in the Old Testament, do you actually know the meaning behind defacing or scarring of the body? This refers to paganistic symbols and that of the idol that the people worshiped.

Also if you think that is wrong based on that Scripture, do you eat only the foods that is mentioned in Leviticus, or follow the Law>

In relation to that, James teaches us that if we break one of the ten commandment, it is like we broke them all.

I don't think that we should judge another brother or sister in Christ, unless they are doing something against God.

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Wretched Man

Good points across the board, Mr. Peterson, until your last one, where you say:

"I don't think that we should judge another brother or sister in Christ, unless they are doing something against God."

1 Corinthians 5:9-11 tell us that we are to judge professing brothers and sisters in the body of Christ when we see them practicing sinful lifestyles and are unrepentant of it. However, how can we come to this conclusion that they are unrepentant without a series of judgments we have to make of whether what they are doing is actually sin or not?

If we find that it's sin, it is our duty as Christians to confront. If Scripture does not call it sin, either directly or in principle, we are to let our brothers and sisters live according to their liberty. BUT, if we believe such things are an abuse of that liberty and they seemingly flaunt their freedom before others whose consciences are convicted by such liberties, we should judge this as such, and meet with them about it.

In Paul's terms, a brother whose conscience has no problem eating food previously offered to idols should not do so if a brother is nearby whose conscience is convicted by such a liberty. In today's terms, I may be fine with drinking alcohol in moderation or watching a rated-R movie, but I would not ever drink alcohol or even talk about the rated-R movie in the presence of a brother or sister who have made known their convictions, even if I disagree with their convictions.

In other words, the onus is on the brother and sister who claim liberty in areas where others cannot because of their conscience. It is on them to be very sensitive about before whom they practice or declare their liberties. Paul said he would completely give up meat previously offered to idols in order to avoid offending a brother or sister convicted in their conscience by such a practice.

Are we willing to do the same for those around us? Or do we think it's okay to flaunt our liberties? Either way, we are obligated to judge such people and situations, and respond accordingly, as prescribed in Scripture.

Be careful of that whole "do not judge" mantra that the unsaved world, who hates the rest of the Bible, loves to chant. We are to judge others within the church.

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SavedByGrace

In reply to Zachary Baas on another forum where he said, "Yes - there was a law against tattooing! Leviticus 19:28 'You shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor tattoo any marks on you: I am the Lord.'"

ZB, notice exactly what that verse says–"You shall not make any cuttings in your flesh FOR THE DEAD, nor any tattoo marks on you." This was a practice performed by the pagan nations that surrounded Israel, involving exactly what the verse states, cuttings in the flesh for the dead. This is not at all what tattoos are usually used for in the world today. It is not necessarily wrong to put the kind of tattoos that many have today on yourself. But as mentioned above, if you flaunt your rights in front of those whose consciences are stricken by it, it is sin.

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Christian Alexander

Plus, ZB, this was a law directed toward the OT nation of Israel. Another similar law was that every Israelite had to set up a fence around his roof. Not to do so was a violation of God's law, and was immoral. However, I doubt your family has a fence around your roof, ZB. Are you then sinning against God?

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ZachB

I was referring to the tattoo part, and was the tattoo part for the same purpose as the cuttings in the flesh for the dead was? And no, I was not referring that He DOES have a law–only that He DID have a law. And as the Ten Commandments (to the Israelites) is good for the present generation, why not Leviticus 19:28? Besides, I wasn't trying to input that He has a law for present day Christians, but mainly just to state a little known fact–that He did have a law for Israelites then against tattoos and cuttings in the flesh for the dead.

Sorry if this is coming across harsh.

ZB

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Christian Alexander

No, I don't think we could take anything harshly from you…especially with your avatar right beside all of your comments. ;) Hopefully it's the same in my case. :P

You didn't address my point about the fence around the roof. If you're saying it's immoral to tattoo or pierce yourself (this necessarily includes earrings), then it must also be immoral to have a roof without a fence.

And why do we no longer stone naughty children or adulterers or homosexuals or Sabbath-breakers? And what about all of the dietary laws? Have you ever eaten bacon, hot dogs, ham, shrimp, fish, or scallops? Do you still sacrifice every day to cover your sins?

Of course, I'm being silly. But that's the logical conclusion of the statements you're making. All of those laws were given to the Israelites. And, for the most part, unless the law was repeated in the NT, we are only supposed to draw principles from the OT laws.

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Talia "StoryMaker"

Of course, I'm being silly. But that's the logical conclusion of the statements you're making. All of those laws were given to the Israelites. And, for the most part, unless the law was repeated in the NT, we are only supposed to draw principles from the OT laws.

Ooh boy, THIS is something that tends to be REALLY thorny. There's a lot of theological debate on how exactly the OT laws apply to the life of believers today. Some obviously do not apply (i.e. the ceremonial laws, circumcision, all laws related to atoning to sin), but Christians disagree on how the rest apply. We should probably make a new topic to discuss this issue, since the question at hand is about drinking.

As for whether or not Christians should drink - I think some verses stated by Joshua and Zachary made it clear that getting drunk is not permissible, but you don't get drunk by drinking a glass of wine on rare occasions. At the same time, though, I don't think I'll ever drink at all. I once had a tiny taste of wine just because I was curious, and I really hated the flavor. I just don't think it's worth it and it's better to be safe than sorry. But my point is, there's nothing in the Bible that requires total and complete abstinence from all wine and beer.

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John project

I think that wine in moderation is fine.

Its the getting drunk part and letting alcohol rule your life that's the No no.

Here's a couple scriptures that no one likes to quote.

Psalm 104:15 And wine that maketh glad the heart of man, and oil to make his face to shine, and bread which strengtheneth man's heart.

!st timothy 5:23 Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities.

Of coarse, Jesus made around a hundred gallons of it ( and no it was not grape juice ) " Every man at the beginning doth set forth good wine and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse, but thou has saved the good wine until now" nope not grape juice!

Here is something interesting I found that was pretty informative.

You can view their argument and make your own opinion.

Melchizedek drank wine and he was the priest of the most high God.
Part of Isaac's blessing on Jacob was that he have plenty of wine.
Wine was used in part of the drink offering.
The Nazarite vow was that a man separate himself from all forms of alcohol and strong drink and even vinegar. If God had prohibited alcohol from all of his followers, why would he need to specify this detail in the Nazarite vow?
Wine was part of a tithe to God.
Wine was given as a gift to kings.
Prophets gave out wine as a gift.
God gave wine to men to make their hearts glad.
One of the gifts of honoring the LORD are winepresses bursting forth with new wine.
Proverbs 20:1 is not even close to a prohibition against alcohol, but a warning of alcohol abuse. in other words, the main wisdom book is offering wisdom on consumption.
Jesus told a parable about the Father and the Son centered around a man who built a vineyard for profit.
Jesus turned water to wine after the people had been drinking awhile.
Jesus used wine in illustrations.
Paul said not to drink wine if it would offend a brother. This falls in line with the argument of the Nazarite vow. No need to make qualifiers if wine is prohibited.
Paul said not to be drunk, not to be overwhelmed and given to wine. Moderation
He told Timothy to drink wine.
Peter warned against the excess of wine, not the use of wine.

So, if you are going to discuss this matter from Scripture, you have to conclude that not only is wine not a prohibited drink, but it is used positively for and by God.
The ONLY argument to even be considered then is the type of alcohol described in Scripture. And to argue that it was not of similar alcoholic content is a stretch considering all of the folk who abused it in Scripture. Jesus himself described wine going through its process. It was obviously fermented wine that would make old wineskins burst.

Here is the blog address

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Daniel Hancock

Even if that verse does not speak against tatooes, there are several reasons why not to do them.

1) Tattooing is marking up our bodies, which are the temples of God.

2) Tattoo almost always portray the sensual. I have not seen any tattoo which I could consider completely pure. Even if a tattoo was morally clean, having a tattoo would associate you with those who do.

Also, regarding R rated movies -

1) Almost all R rated movies have actions, thoughts, and words that God commands us not to do. Why should we watch others doing the same thing, as entertainment?

2) What would Jesus do? Would He sit down next to you and watch them with you?

3) There are so many beneficial uses of the time which God has given us, like sharing the gospel, having a Bible study, or Godly fellowship.

4) A saying I've heard goes like this, "garbage in, garbage out." If a Christian is watching garbage, garbage will come out. It is impossible to not be affected in some way.

5) Others will associate Christians and R-rated movies, which will pollute how people think of God's name.

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Christian Alexander

So would you have a problem with a tatooed Bible verse? And what if someone got all the tatoos before they were converted? Should they have the tatoos surgically removed?

As for R-rated movies, what about movies about wars, which are only R-rated for violence? What about The Passion of the Christ? You said, would Jesus sit down and watch that movie with me? He was the star of that movie. Sure, it wasn't actually Him, but it was accurately portraying what He did. And in order to portray it accurately, there had to be R-rated violence involved.

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John project

First of all, the movie rating system is a sham.

Look at the so called pg and g movies,a lot of them promoting witchcraft, the dark arts and just total foolishness and slap stick-violence and so on.
Just because a movie has a G rating doesn't mean that the G ,stands for "sanctioned by God" or approved by God.

The movie rating system is just part of the commercialized system that we have to live in and its ungodly. And I don't trust the ungodly to make any moral decisions for me. Psalm one has a lot to say about that, wouldn't you agree?

Most so called protective measures that are implemented are not to protect us, but to protect them from lawsuits etc, but disguised in a hypocritical way to make the public think they're doing a public service.

Let me ask a question, just out of curiosity, would you rate the the books of Kings and Chronicle's G ,PG,R or X if they were made into a movie in their entirety ?

I agree that you are what you eat physically and spiritually. And of course if you sit around and watch TV or movies all day, no matter what they are rated, you're going to be a spiritual noodle.

If the ungodly saw me watching a R rated movie I would be wondering what they were doing in my living room. Most people watch movies in the privacy of their own homes, I think. And usually, when the ungodly are over I wouldn't be watching TV but having a Bible class.

Anyway just my viewpoint and opinion.

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Christian Alexander

If the ungodly saw me watching a R rated movie I would be wondering what they were doing in my living room. Most people watch movies in the privacy of their own homes, I think.

:D That made me laugh. Good point.

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SavedByGrace

Mr. Hancock, I'll respond to your comment point by point.

1) What if someone got into an accident and received a large scar for life? Is the Holy Spirit's temple now defiled because it is "marked up"?

2) I do not think it is wrong, nor would it lead to an unbeliever to associate you with other unbelievers, if you got a tattoo with a Bible verse on it. I cannot, however, think of any other type of tattoo that would be a good idea. But that does not mean that there aren't any…

On rated R movies:

1) Some rated R movies are so rated not because of sinful action, but because of violence. This may not be good to watch for some, but it can be okay to watch, if watched with discernment.

2) With some of them, maybe. However, I cannot pretend to be Jesus, and I would not know.

3) Yes, so is reading a mystery novel or playing basketball a waste of time? Sometimes doing things just for the fun of it is okay.

4) Some R-rated movies are not garbage.

5) As "John project" pointed out, a Christian's watching R-rated movies does not need to be an obstacle in witnessing, since that is not information you need to share with someone. And sometimes, it would not help or hinder us even if we did tell them that.

Sorry for my brief summaries, but I have to leave for church. Talk to you later!

P.S. Sorry if it seems that I just love to argue with whatever you say. :) I just happen to disagree with most of what you say, and, well, I can't help but argue. :D It's nothing at all against you personally. :)

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Daniel Hancock

First of all, let me state that all of my points on R rated movies are general, there might be exceptions. Personally, I'll not take that risk.

SBG combined most of the discussions, so I'll just reply there.

1) What if someone got into an accident and received a large scar for life? Is the Holy Spirit's temple now defiled because it is "marked up"?

That would be accidental and not purposeful.

2) I do not think it is wrong, nor would it lead to an unbeliever to associate you with other unbelievers, if you got a tattoo with a Bible verse on it. I cannot, however, think of any other type of tattoo that would be a good idea. But that does not mean that there aren't any…

Due to point one, and what other people associate with tattoos, I would still disagree with you. I live in the city, and it is very common-place. Even sports tatoos, mean we are serving sports, not God. Also, a quick note, if we avoid all tatoos, we will also avoid the mark of the beast. Not that I except that to be a convincing argument, but if you do not want tatoos for the other two reasons, this is just a benefit. :)

On rated R movies:

1) I don't think any Christian should be watching that much violence. We're commanded to love others, not beat them up and murder them. :)

2) I think we can agree that He wouldn't be watching filthy language, violence, and immorality.

3) First of all, God didn't make us to play all day. Some is definitely okay, and even good, as it can exercise our mental and physical abilities. A quick note on a lot of books, the time would be better spent having fun with and investing in the lives of other family members.

4) I have not watched any R rated movies, but all of my points are general.

5) Jesus' life on earth was transparent. We shouldn't have to hide anything in our lives, as we should be blameless (2 Peter 3:14)

In summary, we know what R rated movies in general contain violence, filthy language, immorality, and various other things that God commands us to avoid. I doubt I'll be post further here, as I have said my points; if someone genuinely wants God's best, they can diligently study what the Bible commands. Hopefully what I have said will help them.

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Wretched Man

Wow! I like you already, @JohnProject, and I don't even know who you are! You stole some of my thunder, but I'll try to piggyback what you started.

@Mr. Hancock, who determines if a rated R movie is Rated R? Oh, that's right, it's godless Hollywood! Do you watch any PG-13 movies? Did you know that most of today's PG-13 movies would have been Rated R in the 60's & 70's? Do you realize that when you said you haven't seen a Rated R movie that if you've seen a recent PG-13 movie, then you actually have seen a Rated R movie?! Why? Because YOU let Hollywood dictate what you watch and don't watch. Not a good move.

It's the content of the movie that makes it appropriate or inappropriate, not the Rating. There are pantheistic, secular humanistic, and godless Rated G movies; but according to your logic, it's the Rated R ones we have to be on the lookout against.

This is where the beauty of Christian liberty comes in. @JohnProject is right when he says that, and I'll paraphrase, if I have certain standards to which I hold for me and my family, I know that my standards may be a stumblingblock to another brother or sister; therefore, I will not flaunt my liberties in front of them, nor will I give the unsaved, if they know that I'm a Christian and are watching me, the impression that they and we Christians are just alike. Instead, in the privacy of my home, I will view what I, in good conscience (per the Apostle Paul's admonitions), believe to be appropriate for viewing.

All you did in your posts is express your preferences; but where you started to err is that you began to take your preferences, and tried to infer that they should be the law or code by which all of us should subscribe. That's how legalism begins. There are no hard and fast Biblical commandments or principles being violated here, only your preferences. You argue your case well, and I respect your preferences; but I don't agree with them, and I disagree with them with a clear conscience. I will not reveal or defend what I view in regards to movies for the very fact that I want to be sensitive to those readers, including yourself, who may struggle with what I practice as a liberty.

However, I think we can all agree that Scripture is clear that any form of sexuality and immodesty should not come before our eyes; it is a fire that cannot be taken into our bosom without burning us up. There is no defense of viewing anything sexual in any form, even if it's depicted in the context of marriage. The marriage bed is undefiled, but it is a private relationship between husband and wife, not to be seen by anyone else.

As for whether I would alter anything I watch if Jesus were present, the answer is NO; because, He's always present, watching everything we do. (Psssst! Even worse, though, is that He also sees what's in our hearts! Now that's utterly frightening!)

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ZachB

From WretchedMan's comment "who determines if a rated R movie is Rated R? Oh, that's right, it's godless Hollywood! Do you watch any PG-13 movies? Did you know that most of today's PG-13 movies would have been Rated R in the 60's & 70's? Do you realize that when you said you haven't seen a Rated R movie that if you've seen a recent PG-13 movie, then you actually have seen a Rated R movie?! Why? Because YOU let Hollywood dictate what you watch and don't watch. Not a good move."

Amen! I agree!

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Wretched Man

Don't even get me going on Hollywood's rating system!

Okay, I will share this. One of the main reasons they even added PG-13 movies in the mid-80's was because they wanted to be able to show more Rated R content to more audiences; so they relaxed the content standards on Rated R movies, and made them PG-13. As for Rated R movies, many of them have become what NC-17 used to be; and NC-17's have become more of what Rated X used to be.

On top of that, many PG films today should really be PG-13, while G movies remain the cleanest in their content; but, many G movies have become the breeding ground for much of the government's Socialistic/Communistic agenda, as well as Satan's ongoing schemes to make younger children more and more worldly, materialistic, and heavily dependent on media for entertainment.

I've always found it funny that Mormons restrict themselves from seeing Rated R movies across the board, but have no problems AT ALL with PG-13 or lower. It's too legalistic to simply pinpoint Rated R movies. We have to be more discerning about ALL movies in general; and, no, I do not agree with just not watching them at all. There are many that are quite redeeming, but only if you use them to teach, instruct, and warn about the world, its worldview and its ways.

As it pertains to time management, being a good steward of the time and money God graciously gives us should be a top priority when we deal with any media. Practicing moderation is the key in making sure that we are living a balanced life, and not investing most, or even close to half, of our time in the world's soul-destroying playground. Entertainment is not wrong in and of itself; but, just like anything, if we interact with it at the expense of useful, productive time with God or at the expense of our expected daily mortification of sin, we must reassess our time and priorities to keep God first and foremost.

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Hiruko Kagetane

So what would you say about the ESRB's video game rating system, which has from Ec( Early Childhood), to E(Everyone) to E10+(Everyone 10 and up), T(Teen), M(Mature, 17 and up) and A(Adult, 18 and up)? I haven't played any M or A rated games, but would like to hear your opinion.

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Hiruko Kagetane

Pretty much, but I would like to hear your opinion, if that's okay. Do you think that E10+ is needed, or just an excuse for worse T games?

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Christian Alexander

So what would you say about the ESRB's video game rating system, which has from Ec( Early Childhood), to E(Everyone) to E10+(Everyone 10 and up), T(Teen), M(Mature, 17 and up) and A(Adult, 18 and up)? I haven't played any M or A rated games, but would like to hear your opinion.

My first thought when I saw this comment was, "Only you, Sam. Only you." ;D

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SavedByGrace

I'm not very experienced in video game ratings, and I have a sneaking feeling that most others on Memverse are the same. But if anyone who is wants to answer, go right ahead! I'd like to hear your thoughts. :)

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Wretched Man

It's almost identical to Hollywood's rating system, except video game manufacturers were forced to use a rating system after Family Groups began to threaten boycotts over the violence and immorality on unrated games; whereas Hollywood put the ratings system in place on their own, from what I've come to understand, in order to appear that they are policing their industry, but, instead, it allows them to bring in more explicit content under certain ratings.

TV, like Hollywood, only recently started to put ratings on TV shows and movies; and they, too, do it in order to introduce more immoral content under the guise of the ratings and what they allow.

So, as for video games, their ratings push the limit, but do tend to be policed better for content. Unlike movies, it is very, very difficult for children or adults to purchase video games that contain extremely immoral content. Movies can be accessed online through piracy outlets, as well as other various sources. With video games, you have to mainly go through the postal system to order extreme content, and even then, you have to have the right video game system equipment and its filters. In addition, video games are very difficult to make and be profitable; while anyone can even pull out a phone nowadays and make a short film that can get a million hits on YouTube in no time.

What most people can purchase over-the-counter are Rated M games that are very violent in action and profane in language, but no sexual stuff. This differs greatly from movies and their accessibility.

As for the lower ratings on other games, it's really up to the Family Groups involved in monitoring the ratings system. There will always be argument over whether one rating should have been chosen over another, but the bigger problem for video games, unlike movies, is that they exponentially waste much more time. A movie has a beginning, middle, and an end; but a single video game can go on for hours and hours, days upon days, with all of its levels and competitive interactivity with other people around the world over the internet.

Video games can be THE WORST time vacuums, even if they're content is appropriate, like some Bible-based games out there, or if it's "Angry Birds." Have you heard of that one, Sparky?!?

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Hiruko Kagetane

Well, depending on the software that you're using, making a video game( at least for the computer) can be fairly easy. I have a 3d imaging software(that I got free by the way) that could let me create my own games if I wanted to.

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Octavius

Thankfully, I don't have any video games myself, or else I would waste WAY too much time on them. But that said… ANGRY BIRDS IS THE BEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-Mr. Sarcasm

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SavedByGrace

I agree that video games can easily become a phenomenal waste of time, but I have to agree with Octo (if he is serious, of which I am not sure since he may or may not be using sarcasm)–Angry Birds is such a fun game! I have only played it twice, and that is probably a very good thing…
I'm glad I don't have a Kindle, iPad, or cellphone! :D

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Hiruko Kagetane

Hmm, I might agree with you there, except that even though I have video games( Wii and a computer[ that I build myself by the way]), the power of permission is still granted my my parents, and I don't have unlimited free access to my games(which would soon take all the fun out of them because its more fun to wait for time to play once a week to beat a game, than to beat it at one sitting and get bored with it and want more games). And if I let the love of games rule my life, they get taken OUT of my life, so I've learned to be content with the time I have.

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Random Narnian Warrior (Tarva/Abi)

Many people in Bible times drank wine. It wasn't wrong back then, unless you got drunk or something. The same should be true today. Getting drunk, even mildly, is disgraceful to the name of Jesus which you bear. Moderation is very important.
And, as far as the movies go, what is The Passion rated (as Zachary B. mentioned before)? It's a Christian movie, and it's good (so my parents say; I, personally, have never seen it). But beyond that, remember that your body is Christ's temple, and whatever you watch, Jesus has to watch through you. Can you see him watching a movie with zombies killing people, or one where there's a nasty love affair? The rating isn't everything you have to keep your eye on. Watch the content, too!
And where tattoos are concerned, doesn't it look positively ugly to see a guy with skulls and roses and flames coating his arms and neck?

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Hiruko Kagetane

It was pretty easy. I got a book from a local computer store called Do-It-Yourself: Build Your Own PC For Dummies( Octo, don't say it!). It told me all the parts I would need, even though its, like, 1 or 2 years old( and almost all the parts the author used were outdated by now) it gave me a general sense of what I wanted to build and how. 2 weeks and multiple readings of that book later, and my dad took me back to the computer store to get the parts. I could go into greater detail as to what parts I used, but I don't want to go too far off the topic of this discussion. If you guys want, I can open my own discussion for this under General Chat topics, so let me know.

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Wretched Man

For once, @Sparkly the Deranged Algebraic Teenage Mutant Giraffe, I actually want to hear MORE from you!!

Yes, open up another forum, and tell us more details on how to do this? I am ACTUALLY being serious! (It's a weird, tingly feeling–very unfamiliar!) It would be cool to learn something like that!

Who's with me? START A NEW TOPIC! START A NEW FORUM!

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Hiruko Kagetane

Just to clarify on WM's comment a year back, actually, it's all too easy to get a game with immoral content these days. Which is why Christian review sites (like PluggedIn) are very helpful for those wondering what to play.

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Random Narnian Warrior (Tarva/Abi)

You're telling me! We don't own many computer games (the only non-educational ones are Sim Safari and Zoo Tycoon), and the only video games we do are off the internet (our favorite site is wisdomtreegames.com and my brothers do some of the lego.com ones), but it is helpful to know which ones that are out there are okay…just like with movies!
Does anyone know if either of the Narnia video games are any good?

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Hiruko Kagetane

I've only played LWW, and it was pretty clean, like the movie, but tedious at times. I haven't played any of the other ones though.

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Dani(elle)

I was apolled at hearing what you have to do in some video games like a 12 year-old was telling me this! Like come on man

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