Music

He looks too mean to cry lol

Ok :) I'm not saying that it's wrong for people to not like that music. I'm just saying that the Bible doesn't say whether or not we should listen to that type of music, so we shouldn't either :)

The Bible doesn't say whether or not we should watch movies either. Should we then not watch movies?

I think it's the same thing…you need to draw a line between which ones are good and which ones are bad and then watch accordingly. But also different people have different opinions. Some movie that is good for you could be bad for me…

Just a thought I had – what does Philippians 4:8 say? "Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things."

That is such a great thought, Rachel!!! Thank you for sharing!

STOP READING MY MIND! I WAS JUST ABOUT TO POST THAT VERSE!

He looks too mean to cry lol

Which version of Deadpool are you looking at? X-men origins deadpool looks pretty horrific, but the original comic-book look is not so bad. And his dialogue in all his movie/video game/comics appearances are hilarious!

Yeah, listening to too much classical music is bad for my imagination. And my dance moves.

Wow. Just Wow.

Too MUCH classical music??? Is there even such a thing?? And your dance moves??????

Yeah, listening to too much classical music is bad for my imagination. And my dance moves.

YEA BudDY!

Yes there is! Too little electric guitar is bad your lungs!

I basically like two and a half types of music; classical/movie soundtrack and bands like Skillet and Fireflight.

The most classical-ish music I enjoy is movie soundtrack music.

No, there isn't. And I really don't like the sound of the electric guitar.
@noah: I REALLY like movie sound tracks (most of the time). One song that I really like is the theme song of Lord of the Rings.

coughs Uh, sorry!

There are many "theme songs" in all three (four, counting the Hobbit) movies. You mean Lindsey Stirling's LOTR Medley, ot the Piano Guys one?

Ummm….I don't know. It's just called "Lord of the Rings Theme Song". And it definitely was not Lindsey Stirling's (Her's was okay, but I found better ones)…and it was definitely NOT piano guys.

The best are: Pirates of the Caribbean: Drink up me hearties, Up is down, Hoist the colors, Davy Jones. Spiderman: 1,3 Indiana Jones main Theme, Iron Man 3, The Punisher, Avengers.

He looks too mean to cry lol

You might be surprised, we live together, (all in a good way) and he cries a lot, especially when he gets slighted by girls. jk

This was a recent post on the OPC website: http://opc.org/qa.html?question_id=538

"Question:

Is rock and rap music that contains lyrics and allusions to Biblical beliefs and/or praises to God acceptable in a Christian's life? Or, should all rock and rap music be avoided? God's Word says to stay away from all appearance of evil; so, would that also include music, even if the lyrics give praise to God?

Answer:

Thanks so much for your question about the ethical nature of rock and rap music. As you have noted in your question, it is important to distinguish between the lyrics and the music of a song. Lyrics can be obviously sinful in the message that they convey. Even the tone of lyrics can be sinful (I think immediately of much of the rage-filled screaming and yelling of metal bands). But we are hard-pressed as believers to claim that a certain style/genre of music is sinful in and of itself. To say that certain music sounds evil has several problems (we are not talking about lyrics here, just music). The first is that the Scriptures never lay out for us what evil sounds like in music. Therefore, when we label certain sounds or instruments as evil, we say more than the Scriptures say. Also, this argument against certain genres of music has been used as an excuse by many who simply refuse to engage varying musical genres. Such a response does not encourage intelligent discussion and engagement. This is not to say that certain music is not technically better in quality than other music, and it's not to say that music can't be used for evil purposes. Many musicians, in fact, seek to use music for evil ends. But it's probably best to see music as a tool. Just like a hammer is not good or evil, but can be used for evil (or good) purposes, so it is with music. When we label particular sounds, rhythms, or instruments as evil or good we are basing that judgment on our own preferences and cultural biases and not upon the authority of Scripture.

With that said, varying musical genres must be used wisely by Christians. While Christian rock or rap might be appropriate in a concert or informal setting, it is not appropriate in the public worship of God, which emphasizes the corporate nature of worship. Rock and rap, by nature, focus on individual expression.

More recently, there have been rap songs that rap through one of the great confessions of the church—the Heidelberg Catechism. Simply google "rapping the Heidelberg Catechism" and you'll find more than you need to see how the genre of rap can be used to glorify God.

One more thing needs to be said. Whenever a musical medium becomes more important for a Christian musician that the truth it seeks to communicate, it ceases to be useful. And so those involved in Christian rock or rap must be in constant prayer that the medium of music used not become more important than the truth they are seeking to communicate.

This is a long way of saying that rock and rap music that contains lyrics that seek the glory and praise of God are acceptable in a Christian's life, but must always be used in the Christian life with great care and discernment."

That's exactly what I've been trying to say–just in much clearer words. :)

@Carissa, first of all, congratulations for listening to the song. ;) Even though Casting Crowns is my favorite CCM artist, I am not offended - I already knew you would react that way. :) Courageous happens to be one of their more rocky songs; they also have a lot of beautiful music that does not employ this style. I hope you know that your objections 1 and 3 are simply opinion. Also, concerning objection 2, you might not be able to hear the words (possibly because you're not used to the style?), but I can hear the words just fine. I could type out the entire song right now from memory, but I won't because of copyright restrictions. :P So that makes objection 2 a matter of opinion as well.

@Bethany - Wow! Thanks for posting that! That said everything I've wanted to emulate here and more besides. :D

Ummmm…thanks…but I wasn't trying to listen to it…I was trying to find the main song of the film and I accidentally clicked on that one. May I ask…what does CCM stand for? Yes, it might be my opinion but there is more to it. Have you read that article that I posted?

CCM stands for Contemporary Christian Music. :) I have not read the article that you posted, mostly because I do not have access to any sites except those whitelisted by my parents, but I think I can expect what is in it - things I have seen before in literature published by IBLP, for example. Would you mind telling me the gist of what he says? That way I can know for sure.

Okay, thanks :)
Sure…just a sec…

Okay…so here's the article…I decided that it's kinda hard to give you the gist of what he is saying. It's kinda long so if you don't get through it all right now I totally understand.

Music is big in our world, both sacred and secular. It is big in importance; it is big in industry. We have a very musical world.

Music is a marvel often taken for granted. Cows can’t make music. Frogs and birds come closer. But man is musical.

Angels are musical, as it is written,

Job 38:7 The morning stars sang together and all the sons of God shouted for joy.
In Duncan Campbell’s account of the 1949 Hebrides Revival in the north of Scotland, there were two angelic visitations – singing. And the devil, the top angel, is musical, as it is written,

Isa 14:11 (NAS) Your pomp and the music of your harps have been brought down to Sheol, and,
Eze 28:13 (KJV), Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God … the workmanship of thy tamborines and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
The Lord Jesus is musical, as it is written,

Heb 2:12 in the midst of the congregation I will sing Your praise, and
Mat 26:30 After singing a hymn, they went out to the Mount of Olives.
God Himself is musical, as it is written,

Zep 3:17 He will joy over you with singing.
He is the origin of music. There would be no music if not for the Creator. It is a marvelous gift.

But not all music is good. We should not be surprised, for, if angels can inspire doctrines (1Tim 4:1), surely they can inspire music. The devil takes what is good from God, and corrupts it. So, what makes good music?

I – Words are a very important element in good music

Words are important in God’s economy. One of the names of the Son of God is “the Word.” God has given us a book filled with words. God has chosen preaching, and what is it but words?

Understandability

If musicians could only understand that their words must be understood. It is rare to hear a soloist that can be understood. Most music on the radio, whether secular or sacred, cannot be easily understood. I’ve been to concerts where I could not understand 90% of the singing or preaching. It is barbarianism, as it is written,

1Cor 14:11 If then I do not know the meaning of the language, I will be to the one who speaks a barbarian, and the one who speaks will be a barbarian to me.
The point of music is not that you have music and you want to adorn it with words, but rather that you have a message and want to adorn it with music. If the musician can’t get his message across by turning the music down or voice up, then how will the church be edified? How will another say “amen”, as it is written,

1Cor 14:16 … how will the one who fills the place of the ungifted say the “Amen” at your giving of thanks, since he does not know what you are saying?
Blurriness in speech is likely a mark of the spiritual condition of the nation. Mushy theology produces mushy speech, and much of our music is slurry, wimpy, and whiny rather than bright, cheerful, bold, and straight-forward. But it is not humble to mumble. Rather clarity is a service to the listener.

Content

The content of the words makes for good music. Often Christian music is experience-centered, man-centered, and self-centered – ‘give me, give me’. The content is inferior, lacking sublimity, magnificence, glory, weight, beauty, skill, and theology. The word of Christ is not “rich” in many songs, as it is written,

Col 3:16 Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly … singing.
What makes good music? Words. Words that are understandable, and words that are rich in truth.

II – The music itself, the tune can make for good music

Is there such a thing as a good tune? That is, apart from the words, apart from the listener’s connotative associations and memories, apart from the musician’s spiritual state, can a given tune be good or bad?

First, let’s forget the good or bad aspect and try to demonstrate that music can communicate, that is, it can give off a message. The Lord Jesus teaches this in

Mat 11:17 We played the flute for you, and you did not dance; we sang a dirge, and you did not mourn.
A given tune was expected to produce a certain effect.

There are three elements that determine the quality of a piece of music – the notes, the rhythm, and the volume.

Notes

Granted individual notes are neutral. Like bullets, notes are neutral in themselves; it is only a matter of what is done with them. Or, like letters of the alphabet, they are neutral; it is only a matter of how they are put together. Play the chord CEG on the piano. Now move one finger and play CEF. It is quite a different effect, a different mood. The first is resolution and rest. The second is tension. The first is pleasant and the second is discord. You don’t need to know a thing about music to feel that. There is an inherent message in the sound. An ambulance siren does not need an interpreter. When watching a movie, it is easy to tell by the music that danger is approaching before ever it is seen on the screen. The point? Music by itself communicates by way of the notation.

Rhythm

The beat, that is, how long notes are played makes music speak. Take two hymns, Leaning on the Everlasting Arms, and, My Faith Has Found a Resting Place. They are similar in content, but due to the different rhythms, one is lively, and even lends itself to clapping, whereas the second calls for resignation. The composer uses staccato for a reason. Even accent in our speech gives out a message. One might say, “I can tell by the way you said that, you are angry.” Tribal musicians work warriors into a murderous frenzy with drums alone. The drums of a marching band can make the hair stand up on the back of your head with a sense of foreboding power and aggression. Someone observed, beat is needed, but, like heart beat, too much means trouble.

Volume

How loudly notes are played makes music speak. Composers put crescendos in there for a reason. Seventy-six blaring trombones give off quite a different effect than just one playing the same thing softly. Contrast the delicacy of an instrumental quartet with the swelling tide of a philharmonic orchestra or the scream of a rock band. Musicians know volume communicates and they use that plaintive softness or threatening loudness.

A Powerful Medium

Musicians know music is a powerful medium and intend to communicate by music. You would insult a musician if you told him after the concert that his music did not move you. Dr. Max Schoen in his Psychology of Music says, “Music is the most powerful stimulus known among the perceptive senses.” Saxophonist Clarence Clemons summed up his new instrumental CD, Peacemaker, this way, “I said what I wanted to say.” Instrumental! The high school pep band expects (obvious by the name) to give off a different message than the chamber band at baccalaureate. The US military used music to drive Panamanian leader Manuel Noriega out of his stronghold. Advertising companies spend big money researching the effects of music. A tune can make words stick in the mind for days. What was so great about the Beatles’ I Wanna Hold Your Hand? It was not the words. Texas barrelhouse piano player Robert Shaw boasted he could throw his hands on the keyboard and make the audience move the way he wanted. In 1913 Igor Stravinsky produced a classical instrumental, The Rite of Spring, specifically to create chaos. At the first concert a mass riot occurred and the theater seats were torn up. My wife and I both witnessed our oldest two children each at age two go into the appropriate dance when a piece of music came on the radio. They could not have learned the dance; moreover they had never seen it.

Jimi Hendrix said, “Atmospheres are going to come through music, because music is a spiritual thing of its own.” He boasted he could hypnotize people with music. Another rock star says, “Don’t listen to the words; it’s the music that has its own message … I’ve been stoned on the music many times.” The preacher Martyn Lloyd-Jones said, “We can become drunk on music. There’s no question about that. It can create emotional state in which the mind no longer functions as it should be and no longer discriminates. I have known people to sing themselves into a state of intoxication without realizing what they were doing.” The medical, psychological and other evidence for the non-neutrality of music is so overwhelming, that it is amazing that anyone would seriously say otherwise. Music is never neutral. Words say more, but in varying degrees it will speak.

If music then does give off a message, it easily follows that a given piece of music can be good or bad. That is, music can indeed communicate a message that fits Christianity or does not. It can minister an attitude, stir a mood, create an atmosphere, and make an effect that will express a worldview – either Christian or not. Just as words can rightly or wrongly represent Christianity, so also does music.

Underlying Principles for Discerning

How can we judge music? Here are some Biblical guidelines, some underlying principles that can be applied.

Is the music proper; is it fitting? Certain things are fitting among the saints. Some things are appropriate; some are not.

Eph 5:3 as is proper (fitting) among saints.
Php 1:27 conduct yourselves in a manner worthy of the gospel of Christ.
Just as a suit and tie is not fitting for digging ditches, so we should analyze what conduct is fitting for saints (holy ones). Does this piece of music fit a Christian worldview? One Christian artist says, “Here’s a sound your parents will hate.”

Is the music peaceful and restful?

1Cor 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace.
Lively music is fine, but screaming, harsh, driving, pounding music is another thing. Dave Roberts, a columnist for the CCM magazine Buzz says, “Heavy rock is body music designed to by-pass the brain and with unrelenting brutality induce a frenzied state among the audience.”

Is the music humble?

Mat 11:28 I am meek and lowly of heart.
Does the music minister submission to the King of kings or does it speak aggression and rebellion? Does it call for surrender to the Majesty on high or is it pushy, daring, and lawless? Does it make you feel like a tough-guy? It is unseemly to have a singer snarl out a commitment to Christ.

Is the music melodious?

Eph 5:18 singing and making melody in your hearts.
Is the music melodious, bright, cheerful, hopeful, and bold, or is it wimpy, whiny, slurry, and lacking resolution after tension? David made sweet music (2Sam 23:1). The music of heaven is sweet, like harps (Rev 14:2). The harsh, strident, distorted, nasty music does not fit Christianity. Mick Jagger of the Rolling Stones says, “It’s a noise we make. That’s all. You could be kind and call it music.”

Is music ordered?

1Cor 14:40 all things be done decently and in order.
Is the music ordered or is it chaotic? Some is so unordered that it does not make for congregational singing. It does not fit among the saints.

Is the music sensual or is it spiritual?

James 3:15 this wisdom descends not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish.
Does the music tempt me to move my body in sensual way or does it remind me I am not a debtor to the flesh, to live after the flesh (Rom 8:12)?

Is there such a thing as a sensual song? We could cite many men of God who would affirm it, but maybe they are biased, old-fashioned, and narrow-minded. If we won’t receive the counsel of godly, then listen to the ungodly. What do the rock stars themselves say?

Sex and Rock go together like wheels on a car.
Rock music is sex and you have to hit teens in the face with it.
The purpose of rhythm is to get into an orgiastic state of losing yourself.
And their bold testimonies continue …

Rock has always been the devil’s music and you can’t convince me that it isn’t.
Rock and Roll doesn’t glorify God. I was one of the pioneers of that music, one of the builders. I know what the blocks are made of because I built them.
Rock is the perfect primal method of releasing our violent instincts. He calls his music Combat Rock and speaks of raping his audience.
We communicate aggression and frustration to an audience, musically and visually.
Rock and Roll brings out violent emotions.
I am sorry that I was involved in the beginnings of Rock and Roll. It has helped to destroy untold millions of young people the world over.
If I told you what our music is really about, we’d probably all get arrested.
When performing I don’t know who I am. If someone walked on the stage I’d probably kill. We wanted to blow their minds with our music.
III – The Musicians Themselves Should be Considered

Ironically and admittedly good people can make bad music and conversely, bad people can make good music. But God is nevertheless concerned about who is carrying the ark (2Sam 6:3f). He does not need a demonized girl to preach even if she is preaching truth (Acts 16:16).

The Bible is replete with warnings against false leaders, hypocrites: Mat 7, Acts 20, Rom 16, Gal 1, Eph 4, Php 3, 2Cor 11, 1Tim 4, 2Tim 3, 2Pet 2, 1Jn 4, and Jude. False leaders are many, as it is written,

2Cor 2:17 For we are not like many, peddling the word of God, but as from sincerity, but as from God, we speak in Christ in the sight of God.
We are to beware of evil workers (Php 3:2). We don’t want to endorse an unregenerate piper, pastor, music leader, or piano player.

False ministers are peddlers of the word.

2Cor 2:17 For we are not like many, peddling the word of God, but as from sincerity, but as from God, we speak in Christ in the sight of God.
They are merchandisers, concert-hopping, money-loving, fame-promoting, compromising entertainers. It is a modern manifestation of the sins of Jeroboam (1Kg 12:30, 14:16) – do anything to get the people. They are crowd manipulators, skilled at working the crowd up into a high – high places that should be torn down.

2Chr 15:17 the high places were not taken away.
The world does it better. Let them do it. Was the past not enough for us?

They are not sincere, but are show-offs.

2Cor 2:17 For we are not like many, peddling the word of God, but as from sincerity, but as from God, we speak in Christ in the sight of God.
They are not worship leaders but performers, pretending some sensual ecstasy with their eyes closed, breathing out their breathy lyrics with the mic at their mouth. Are they servants or stars? Are they gathering followers for Christ or fans for themselves? As someone observed, they are not saying, “Behold the Lamb”, but they are saying, “Behold me saying, ‘Behold the Lamb.’” Some admit they intend to entertain. Some get the girls to scream at them. It is a fair show in the flesh. It is strange fire (Lev 10:1). And there is this continual attempt to say it ‘cool’, to be a ‘character’, to be cute, clever, and even goofy. But buffoonery and cleverness nullify the cross, as it is written,

1Cor 1:17 For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel, not in cleverness of speech, so that the cross of Christ would not be made void.
One band, speaking of the resurrection of Christ, says, “You can’t keep a good man down.” It is cheap blasphemy. What happened to simple sobriety and sincerity? How different these men are from the gravity characterizing men of God. How different from the fearful atmosphere of the great revivals when God was present in a manifest way? How different from Paul the apostle, as it is written,

1Cor 2:3 And I was with you in weakness, and in fear, and in much trembling.
Acts 20:31 Therefore watch, and remember that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears.
Paul’s ministry was in the sight of God.

2Cor 2:17 For we are not like many, peddling the word of God, but as from sincerity, but as from God, we speak in Christ in the sight of God.
He was God-centered, God-fearing. They are afraid to be different from the world and are ashamed of Christ. One Christian artist mentions the name of the Lord Jesus once in nine songs. Some musicians are so vague that it is not possible to distinguish if they are singing about some lover or about Christ. No wonder they are sponsored by beer companies.

Now, it must be admitted that there are gray areas in music. It is an art, not a hard science like math, though God has more math in it than most realize. Each song must be analyzed. And, as we go on in the Christian walk, our tastes and choices are purified. We grow. This is the way of grace. There is much to learn.

Psa 119:7 I will give thanks to You with uprightness of heart when I learn Your righteous judgments.

Php 1:9, 10 And this I pray, that your love may abound still more and more in real knowledge and all discernment, so that you may approve the things that are excellent, in order to be sincere and blameless until the day of Christ.

Again, behold the power of good music. When Paul and Silas sang, the earth shook and the jail rattled (Acts 16). When Jehoshaphat went out to battle, he put the singers in front of the army and God set up ambushments (2Chr 20:22). David’s harp drove off evil spirits (1Sam 16:23). When Elisha called for the minstrel, it invoked the hand of God and a spirit of prophecy (2Kg 3:15). Good music pleases God, as it is written,

Psa 69:30 I will praise the name of God with a song … it shall please the Lord better than an ox or bullock that has horns and hoofs.

Wow! Pretty good article. Better than I expected. :P jk But seriously, I could probably count on my fingers and toes the sentences that I disagree with in that article. There are a few things I'd like to comment on:

"If music then does give off a message, it easily follows that a given piece of music can be good or bad." The author is using the wrong wording. I understand what he is saying by "music giving off a message", but I think it can be better phrased as stirring up emotions instead of giving off a message. Emotions are not initially controllable, and are therefore not wrong in themselves unless allowed to build up to a sinful attitude. (BTW, "emotion" and "attitude" are not synonyms; "attitude" refers to the feeling of the heart and is definitely willful.) That being said, I definitely agree that the tune should fit the words of the song. I have heard plenty of Christian songs that sound angry and grinding but the lyrics don't fit the tune. I dislike this type of music.

"The harsh, strident, distorted, nasty music does not fit Christianity." This is a sentence full of opinion. If you ask me, I say that the music I listen to is not "harsh, stident, distorted, and nasty". I understand the idea he is trying to get across, but it is simply not biblical (don't believe me? Give me a verse!)

"Some is so unordered that it does not make for congregational singing." So what? As the person Bethany quoted said, a lot of contemporary music is by nature individual expression. Must all songs be able to be sung by a congregation?

"If we won’t receive the counsel of godly, then listen to the ungodly. What do the rock stars themselves say?" Though I didn't actually laugh at this, and am therefore not using LOL :P, it is a laughable idea. Seriously, does the author expect us to believe the secular rock artists' view of the music? They are obviously using it for fleshly purposes, something that some so-called Christian artists do (sadly) but many do not. How about listening to THEIR view of contemporary music?

"Rock has always been the devil’s music and you can’t convince me that it isn’t." As Nicolas has already pointed out, nothing belongs to the world or the devil in full. Even the world and the devil themselves are in God's power. If you associate it with the world, there's nothing wrong with you staying away from it. However, please don't judge those of us who enjoy this music, as long as it is wholesome (and I'm not saying that it is all wholesome - quite the contrary.)

"Now, it must be admitted that there are gray areas in music. It is an art, not a hard science like math, though God has more math in it than most realize. Each song must be analyzed. And, as we go on in the Christian walk, our tastes and choices are purified. We grow. This is the way of grace. There is much to learn." Agreed completely. The last part of the paragraph is one of the best parts of the article. :D

I do think that one should be careful in what one listens to. There are a lot of problems with some so-called Christian music. Also, if you find that the beat of contemporary music influences you in a bad way, you would probably be better off staying away from it. But please don't go saying that that style of music is, as a whole, morally wrong.

Okay, so I should have made this clear before I posted that article…I do not agree with everything in it. After Nationals I will be starting to study music in-depth and once I have come to a conclusion about it I will post here. There are principles of music and each song must be individually judged according to those principles. I have been wrong in saying that all rock, rap, etc… is bad, that is not necessarily true…each song must be judged individually not lumped into the "bad" category because of the label it is given.

What if you like the music itself, but the lyrics are in another language?

Same as music without lyrics, I think. If it's good quality, I don't see a problem with listening to it. But what if the lyrics are bad in their language? Well… I'd have to think about it a bit more. :)

It depends on what the words are, and what the music is like. If the music is good but the words are bad then you can probably find other music to listen to. If they are both good then go ahead and listen to it. If the music is bad but the words are good then don't listen to it. That's just my opinion.

Again, though, we go back to the question: What is a bad song? I'd say that it's pretty hard for a song to be bad if it has godly lyrics. Basically the only way it wouldn't be a good song is if it is poorly made. But even then, I wouldn't have any trouble listening to it because of the good lyrics. I'm still having a hard time figuring out what an inherently bad song would sound like…

I wanted to draw attention real quickly to a quotation from the other Music forum by John Project, and Nicolas' response.

"When you go witnessing if you sing them a gospel song, do you rap to them? yes or no? or do you scree-mo to them? yes or no?… If they are inspired songs, it should be okay right?"
"I do not rap to them because I don't know how. :) I don't screamo to them because I highly, highly dislike screamo and think that it can't be glorifying to God because one cannot hear the words of screamo. If I could rap, would I use it in witnessing encounters? Probably not. I don't think that singing in a witnessing encounter is perfectly appropriate, even with good hymns and such. Plus, I don't like my singing voice. :P But I would gladly give them a good, theology-packed rap CD to listen to! :)"

One thing that I think I agree with the people who say "only traditional music" is that music is not meant to be used to spread the gospel. It is a tool to glorify God and minister to other believers. God has given us preaching and evangelizing to make disciples, not making music.

So, are you agreeing or disagreeing with what I said back then? (Which, may I add, was a long time ago. :P) In any case, I agree with you. :)

Pretty much agreeing, since you said that singing is not perfectly appropriate in witnessing encounters, although you didn't elaborate. I have to say though, it probably wouldn't be quite practical to keep a stash of CDs to give out when witnessing. :P However, if you did have an album on hand and felt God's leading to give it, I'd say go for it!

So, if the song just makes you want to get up and dance, would you classify it as good or bad? Either Christian, or secular?

I would say that it depends.

Depends on………………………..?

On lots of things….

Like…………………?

The purpose of these forums is to hear people's opinion!

Well…. I can not reply in length yet…cause I am on an iPhone so when I get on the computer (in about 45 minutes) I will reply in length.
And obviously that is the point of these forums…

What do you mean by dance, Sam? Do you mean it just makes you feel bouncy, or it makes you want to dance with another person (of the opposite gender)?

shrugs

Either way. I mean, when I want to dance, I want to dance, if I have someone to dance with or not. I'm not necessarily talking waltz music, but music in general.

Nathan do you think that it is wrong to dance with someone of the opposite gender

@Sam, if it's not stirring up immoral passions, then it's absolutely fine.

Sam and Carissa, what do you think of this music?

It's a pretty bouncy, "dancy" piece. Is there anything wrong with it?

Nathan… When I get on a computer I will listen to it and let you know what I think of it.

@Carissa~ Talking outside of marriage or family relationship: will it send you to Hell? Not necessarily, as long as you're not mentally committing adultery or touching places you shouldn't be. But is it generally inappropriate? I think so.

Okay.