Dating vs Courtship.

-_- I didn't say those things always happen. I say they're risks, which aren't worth it from any perspective.

-_- I didn't say those things always happen. I say they're risks, which aren't worth it from any perspective.

So is crossing the street. :P

-_- I didn't say those things always happen. I say they're risks, which aren't worth it from any perspective.

Why that smiley? What'd I do this time?

I understand your point there.

-_- I didn't say those things always happen. I say they're risks, which aren't worth it from any perspective.

So is _crossing the street_. :P

No; crossing the street is worth the risk. You need to get to your destination so you can continue your life. And if you're careful, the risk is low–whereas to do romance teasing IS to not be careful.
So you just committed the logical fallacy of "weak analogy".

-_- I didn't say those things always happen. I say they're risks, which aren't worth it from any perspective.

So is _crossing the street_. :P

No; crossing the street is worth the risk. You need to get to your destination so you can continue your life. And if you're careful, the risk is low--whereas to do romance teasing IS to not be careful. So you just committed the logical fallacy of "weak analogy".

Teasing allows the teased to grow, as the learn the extents of their own emotions and the reasons they think the way they do. As such, they learn, and continue with their lives. Doesn't that make teasing more or less as beneficial as crossing the street (in most circumstances)? ;)

A much better way to grow is just to leave it to God to direct your heart. Romance teasing for that purpose is like dating–it can be a success, but it will most likely be a mess. (Hey; that even rhymes. :-P)

Oh wait… sorry; I clicked "reply" to the wrong person. Sam ripped my point out of context with his question. It's obvious that Sam teasing you about another guy is not flirting. That's not what I was talking about in that point.

The risk of flirting can come in two ways: the people who are being teased about each other might start flirting because of it (whether they actually have feelings or not), and of course teasing someone about yourself IS flirting (again, whether you actually have feelings or not).

These are all general statements.

So…God can't use other people and their teasing to grow you? Hmm?

JSYK, I'm just continuing this "argument" for fun. ;)

Just sayin'…teasing someone about yourself…that hasn't ever happened here and I doubt will. That'd be…just…awkward..

Just sayin'...teasing someone about yourself...that hasn't ever happened here and I doubt will. That'd be...just...awkward..

That'd be funny, actually. XD

So...God can't use other people and their teasing to grow you? Hmm?

Of course He can. But He can also (and has) used dating to bring two people together to be married. Just because God can use it for good doesn't make it wise.

Dating is unwise because the risks aren't worth it; it's the same here.

Just sayin'...teasing someone about yourself...that hasn't ever happened here and I doubt will. That'd be...just...awkward..

That'd be funny, actually. XD

That'd be awkward…

^Oh and ftr it has happened…sorta…in a round about way…but not in flirting^

Oh, that's right–I remember that. -_-

I'm thankful it hasn't been a common thing at all, though! 0_0

So...God can't use other people and their teasing to grow you? Hmm?

Of course He can. But He can also (and has) used dating to bring two people together to be married. Just because God can use it for good doesn't make it wise. Dating is unwise because the risks aren't worth it; it's the same here.

And crossing the street can be unwise when you have other options as well. Hee hee! As fun as this debate is, we seem to be getting nowhere; besides the fact that I'll still tease just about everyone at some time or another. XD

Mhmm.

So...God can't use other people and their teasing to grow you? Hmm?

Of course He can. But He can also (and has) used dating to bring two people together to be married. Just because God can use it for good doesn't make it wise. Dating is unwise because the risks aren't worth it; it's the same here.

And crossing the street can be unwise when you have other options as well. Hee hee! As fun as this debate is, we seem to be getting nowhere; besides the fact that I'll still tease just about everyone at some time or another. XD

You may as well add 'some more than others'. :P

So...God can't use other people and their teasing to grow you? Hmm?

Of course He can. But He can also (and has) used dating to bring two people together to be married. Just because God can use it for good doesn't make it wise. Dating is unwise because the risks aren't worth it; it's the same here.

And crossing the street can be unwise when you have other options as well. Hee hee! As fun as this debate is, we seem to be getting nowhere; besides the fact that I'll still tease just about everyone at some time or another. XD

You may as well add 'some more than others'. :P

True, true! XD

And crossing the street can be unwise when you have other options as well. Hee hee! As fun as this debate is, we seem to be getting nowhere; besides the fact that I'll still tease just about everyone at some time or another. XD

It CAN be, of course–like if it's so busy or icy that it would be careless to cross it no matter what–but as a general rule, assuming you know how to be careful on the street, it's not unwise. Other ways might take longer and hold up your day unnecessarily. See how this was a bad analogy? ;-)

And crossing the street can be unwise when you have other options as well. Hee hee! As fun as this debate is, we seem to be getting nowhere; besides the fact that I'll still tease just about everyone at some time or another. XD

It CAN be, of course--like if it's so busy or icy that it would be careless to cross it no matter what--but as a general rule, assuming you know how to be careful on the street, it's not unwise. Other ways might take longer and hold up your day unnecessarily. See how this was a bad analogy? ;-)

Nope! Because mine brand of teasing is quick and awesome, and never holds me up! :D

Obviously you didn't understand that… woah, like, at all…

Obviously you didn't understand that... woah, like, at all...

I didn't understand Nathan? WHOA! Do I get a medal?

fanfare plays

YAY!

How is romance teasing profitable in any way except indirectly? "Learning the extent of your emotions and why you think the way you do" is an effect that can come from any one of several causes. The mere fact that romance teasing may produce this effect does not at all make it right or wise. I, for one, cannot see anything good coming out of such teasing–and I can see several bad things that at least might come out of it. Looking at it that way, I believe that I am right in making a broad assertion: there is no truly good reason for one person to tease another about romance. When it comes down to it, romance is a basically serious subject, and ought not to be treated lightly. I completely agree that we should usually try to laugh at ourselves; but I can't see this being an area in which doing so would be appropriate.

I can't see anything I say affecting the amount or manner of teasing here on Memverse… but I thought I'd just make yet another silent protest. Please, those involved: reconsider. ^Yes, Sam, especially you. And please don't rip me apart too much.^

I just thought of something! Next time I see one of you girls who approves of romance teasing, I'll slink up to you, put my arms around your waist, and give you a smooch on the mouth. But it will just be in a joking way; it won't be anything serious, so you'll just be able to laugh it off… right? Hey, maybe you'll even get some new perspectives!

Oh, come on! You're taking yourself too seriously!

1. That wasn't even funny.
2. Bad analogy.
3. I never said I 'approved' of it…just wanted to point out some errors in your reasoning.

How is romance teasing profitable in any way except indirectly? "Learning the extent of your emotions and why you think the way you do" is an effect that can come from any one of several causes. The mere fact that romance teasing may produce this effect does not at all make it right or wise. I, for one, cannot see anything good coming out of such teasing--and I can see several bad things that at least _might_ come out of it. Looking at it that way, I believe that I am right in making a broad assertion: there is no truly good reason for one person to tease another about romance. When it comes down to it, romance is a basically serious subject, and ought not to be treated lightly. I completely agree that we should usually try to laugh at ourselves; but I can't see this being an area in which doing so would be appropriate. I can't see anything I say affecting the amount or manner of teasing here on Memverse... but I thought I'd just make yet another silent protest. Please, those involved: reconsider. ^Yes, Sam, especially you. And please don't rip me apart too much.^

Nope. Still don't really care. Do you, Sampool?

Not really. I mean, did we eat chimichangas with friends and fangirls anyway?

I do believe so.

Then why in Wolverine's name would we stop?

People being whiny?

People are like that about the Wii U, Batman, and cheeseburgers!

I know, right?

Well, can I go back to the unaliving now?

Sure. Anyways Nic, don't think I'll be changing anytime soon. ;)

I just thought of something! Next time I see one of you girls who approves of romance teasing, I'll slink up to you, put my arms around your waist, and give you a smooch on the mouth. But it will just be in a joking way; it won't be anything serious, so you'll just be able to laugh it off... right? Hey, maybe you'll even get some new perspectives! Oh, come on! You're taking yourself too seriously!

I'm sure their brothers will get new perspectives on you too! :D

Bad analogy.

^I have to agree here.

Sure. Anyways Nic, don't think I'll be changing anytime soon. ;)

If I've just given reasons why it would be beneficial to you and others for you to do so… WHY NOOOOOOT?!

Sure. Anyways Nic, don't think I'll be changing anytime soon. ;)

If I've just given reasons why it would be beneficial to you and others for you to do so... WHY NOOOOOOT?!

puts feet up on table

Don't really caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaare!. ;)

Sure. Anyways Nic, don't think I'll be changing anytime soon. ;)

If I've just given reasons why it would be beneficial to you and others for you to do so... WHY NOOOOOOT?!

*puts feet up on table* Don't really _caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaare!_. ;)

AND WHAT IF THAT'S A PROBLEM?

Sure. Anyways Nic, don't think I'll be changing anytime soon. ;)

If I've just given reasons why it would be beneficial to you and others for you to do so... WHY NOOOOOOT?!

*puts feet up on table* Don't really _caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaare!_. ;)

AND WHAT IF THAT'S A PROBLEM?

Only a problem if you make it one. ;)

AND WHAT IF THAT'S A PROBLEM?

Only a problem if you make it one. ;)

Or perhaps it's inherently a problem, and you're ignoring something that shouldn't be ignored! :P

AND WHAT IF THAT'S A PROBLEM?

Only a problem if you make it one. ;)

Or perhaps it's inherently a problem, and you're ignoring something that shouldn't be ignored! :P

smiles

I appreciate your fervor. But, I think you're making a big deal out of something that isn't. How many actual conflicts have we had on here over this? Actual conflicts, not Nathan telling Carissa to be offended?

*smiles* I appreciate your fervor. But, I think you're making a big deal out of something that isn't. How many actual conflicts have we had on here over this? _Actual_ conflicts, not Nathan telling Carissa to be offended?

Conflicts? My apologies if you thought I was talking about conflicts. :P I'm talking about deeper things that may (or, admittedly, may not) occur. I'm not trying to blow something out of proportion, but I see truth in the argument that teasing can drive a wedge (however small a wedge) of awkwardness between the two involved people. There's a possibility that it won't happen… but we can't always tell! I think it's best to stay away from it–especially because there's no good reason to do it! :P

AND WHAT IF THAT'S A PROBLEM?

Only a problem if you make it one. ;)

Or perhaps it's inherently a problem, and you're ignoring something that shouldn't be ignored! :P

*smiles* I appreciate your fervor. But, I think you're making a big deal out of something that isn't. How many actual conflicts have we had on here over this? _Actual_ conflicts, not Nathan telling Carissa to be offended?

Nathan telling me to be offended?

*smiles* I appreciate your fervor. But, I think you're making a big deal out of something that isn't. How many actual conflicts have we had on here over this? _Actual_ conflicts, not Nathan telling Carissa to be offended?

Conflicts? My apologies if you thought I was talking about conflicts. :P I'm talking about deeper things that may (or, admittedly, may not) occur. I'm not trying to blow something out of proportion, but I see truth in the argument that teasing can drive a wedge (however small a wedge) of awkwardness between the two involved people. There's a possibility that it won't happen... but we can't always tell! I think it's best to stay away from it--especially because there's no _good_ reason to do it! :P

Same could be said for any kind of teasing. Seriously. ;)

Same could be said for any kind of teasing. Seriously. ;)

Well, there's where I kinda disagree. With romance (which I still contend is quite a serious thing! :P), teasing goes to a deeper level–it toys with the most deep-seated emotions of the human soul! I really can't see romance as a thing to be teased about. And why do it anyway? :P

You do realize, Nicolas, that you're getting no where with this? :P

You do realize, Nicolas, that you're getting no where with this? :P

I like to try anyway, okay??! :P And I've won an argument with Sam ONCE, so there's always hope! :P

You do realize, Nicolas, that you're getting no where with this? :P

I like to try anyway, okay??! :P And I've won an argument with Sam ONCE, so there's always hope! :P

Okay!!! I wasn't saying you should stop! Sorry!!!

You do realize, Nicolas, that you're getting no where with this? :P

I like to try anyway, okay??! :P And I've won an argument with Sam ONCE, so there's always hope! :P

Okay!!! I wasn't saying you should stop! Sorry!!!

No need to apologize. :P But I really do want to try to do something about what I feel is, though not a pressing issue, an annoyingly ongoing one… so I'm doing what I can to change it. Even if I know I'll hopelessly fail! :P

Same could be said for any kind of teasing. Seriously. ;)

Well, there's where I kinda disagree. With romance (which I _still_ contend is quite a serious thing! :P), teasing goes to a deeper level--it toys with the most deep-seated emotions of the human soul! I really can't see romance as a thing to be teased about. And why do it anyway? :P

And, "regular" teasing can do the same, depending on the subject matter. ;)

1. That wasn't even funny. 2. Bad analogy. 3. I never said I 'approved' of it...just wanted to point out some errors in your reasoning.

1. It wasn't supposed to be funny.
2. Why? What's the difference? If it's all done in good fun, WHAT is the difference?
3. I never said you did!

@Nicolas, #2 is a response to your agreement, too. :-P

If people don't want to be teased about romance, and you know this full well and still tease them, that is outright sin.

Same could be said for any kind of teasing. Seriously. ;)

Well, there's where I kinda disagree. With romance (which I _still_ contend is quite a serious thing! :P), teasing goes to a deeper level--it toys with the most deep-seated emotions of the human soul! I really can't see romance as a thing to be teased about. And why do it anyway? :P

And, "regular" teasing can do the same, depending on the subject matter. ;)

…Um… example, please? :P I really can't think of any kind of teasing that treats lightly something so deep; but if there is, I probably wouldn't approve of that either! :P

If people don't want to be teased about romance, and you know this full well and still tease them, that is outright sin.

Um… where do you get this argument from? I don't necessarily disagree… but I don't know where you get the authority to declare this.

If people don't want to be teased about romance, and you know this full well and still tease them, that is outright sin.

Oh no!

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I'd be offended if I wasn't thinking "Let he who has no sin cast the first stone!"

^Would we?^

^I dunno. Just something to say, I guess.^

^Could've just said 'CHIMICHANGA!'^

^True. Next time.^

1. That wasn't even funny. 2. Bad analogy. 3. I never said I 'approved' of it...just wanted to point out some errors in your reasoning.

1. It wasn't supposed to be funny. 2. Why? What's the difference? 3. I never said you approved of it.

I'll reply after dinner.

Why? What's the difference?

Teasing is not the same–even when you extend it logically–as such an outright display. The same arguments cannot be used to "justify" it; so I have to agree with them in saying that it isn't the best analogy to use here. Not to put down your argument; I just don't think this was the best way to prove what you're saying. :)

And, "regular" teasing can do the same, depending on the subject matter. ;)

YES!!! DEPENDING ON THE SUBJECT MATTER!!!! So that doesn't mean all teasing is inappropriate, but some is!